GSI Banner
  • Free Access
  • Contributors
  • Membership Levels
  • Video
  • Origins
  • Sponsors
  • My Account
  • Sign In
  • Join Now

  • Free Access
  • Contributors
  • Membership Levels
  • Video
  • Origins
  • Sponsors
  • Contact

© 2025 Grey Swan Investment Fraternity

  • Cookie Policy
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms & Conditions
  • Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information
  • Whitelist Us
Daily Missive

What If the “Scaling Cliff” Pops the AI Bubble?

Loading ...John Rubino

September 10, 2025 • 3 minute, 45 second read


AIAI bubble

What If the “Scaling Cliff” Pops the AI Bubble?

“History as well as life itself is complicated — neither life nor history is an enterprise for those who seek simplicity and consistency.”

-Jared Diamond, Collapse

September 10, 2025 — Artificial intelligence is this decade’s tech success story. And that sector’s stocks — led by the almost supernaturally powerful chip maker Nvidia — are primarily responsible for the S&P 500 and Nasdaq being at record highs.

In just the past five years, nearly a trillion dollars have been thrown at AI data centers, chip plants, and model training. And the spending curve continues to steepen, as pretty much every tech firm and most governments enter the AI arms race.

Early AIs improved in line with the amount of computing power and new data they were fed. This led to the assumption that AI investment had a predictable rate of return (which investors absolutely love).

But with the most recent iterations of name-brand AI, that relationship has broken down. They’re not improving in line with the money being spent on them, leading a growing number of analysts to voice doubt about whether the return on this investment can be predicted going forward. This is known as the “scaling cliff.”

As Chat GPT explains the problem:

The entire LLM arms race assumes smooth scaling. If we’re close to a cliff:

  • Simply making models bigger stops being productive. 
  • Labs must pivot to data curation, architecture changes, or reasoning-focused designs.
  • Many researchers suspect we’re nearing this cliff.

In short:

The AI scaling cliff is the point where bigger no longer means better — when scaling laws break because of data, optimization, or cost bottlenecks. It marks the boundary between “brute force scaling” and needing new approaches to intelligence.

Here are two video deep dives into the scaling cliff concept:

Could the AI bubble burst?

Bubbles, while they’re inflating, take on the aura of inevitability. In the 1990s, the Internet was going to rule the world, and the leading dot-coms would, as a result, grow exponentially forever. In the real estate bubble of the 2000s, home prices would always rise, so no price was too high for a nice house.

Those bubbles popped, catastrophically. That’s the nature of bubbles, and it would be a denial of history to expect the frantic money pouring into AI to return consistent profits. And to expect the broader markets elevated by this bubble to keep rising when the bubble pops.

By every historical valuation measure, US stocks (other than the commodities miners) are well into bubble territory. So it’s wise to build crash protection into today’s portfolios. Long-dated put options on the S&P or Nasdaq are just basic common-sense insurance at this point.

John Rubino
John Rubino’s Substack & Grey Swan Investment Fraternity

P.S. from Addison: We love AI. Specifically, the LLMs ChatGPT, Claude and Perplexity.

Over the weekend, we drafted a 67-page outline and publisher’s treatment of a future book using our own “AI Clone” (as our buddy Chris Daigle would call it).

At the very least, LLMs can collect, organize and describe data that took hours, days and weeks only two years ago when we updated Demise of the Dollar,  Financial Reckoning Day and Empire of Debt in 2003-04 for their post-pandemic third editions. That was time spent in purposeful drudgery I would have preferred to be using to actually think.

We can see how LLMs and other advanced computational platforms will free a myriad of occupations from equal drudgery.

That said, AI doesn’t think for you.

Nor is it any more immune from market forces than routers in the Cisco bust of the 2000s tech wreck or radio transmitters in the great RCA boom and bust of the 1920s.

Grey Swan events – those which you cannot time, but can identify through current trends and historical examples – will pock the innovation cycle as much during the Age of Intelligence as any other age.

Thanks to John Rubino for sharing the growing challenge of AI scalability today.

Grey Swan Live! this week: Mark Jeftovic joins us tomorrow at 2 p.m. ET for “Shadow Fed & the American Dream” — how a September rate cut could hit the dollar’s purchasing power, where the money-market flood might go next, and why “control of money” is migrating from central banks to code, corporates, and courts.

Turn Your Images On

If you’d like, you can drop your most pressing questions right here: Feedback@GreySwanFraternity.com. We’ll be sure to work them in during the conversation.


Porter Stansberry: Anatomy of an Asymmetric Bet

September 11, 2025 • Addison Wiggin

It’s one of those rare situations Warren Buffett would describe as “raining gold”… when all you have to do is step outside if you want to get rich. And it’s the type of setup Erez has built his entire investing career around. 

The type of opportunity with the potential to make you a small fortune.

Porter Stansberry: Anatomy of an Asymmetric Bet
American Pathology

September 11, 2025 • Addison Wiggin

Twenty-four years ago, today, nearly 3,000 people died in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. But the toll hasn’t stopped. The FDNY has now lost more members to 9/11-related illnesses than it did on the day itself. This week, the department added 39 names to its Memorial Wall, bringing the total to 402.

Mayor Eric Adams spoke plainly: “We need to humanize what happened those 24 years ago and not allow time to erode how significant it was. The countless number of men and women ran towards danger, and we’re still losing their lives every day.”

America’s story, from Lincoln to JFK to 9/11 to now, is scarred by episodes of violence that rupture legitimacy. Each event has reshaped institutions, politics, and markets.

And in the age of hyper-partisan politics, global debt, and technological acceleration.

American Pathology
The Income Effect

September 11, 2025 • Addison Wiggin

A company can restate its earnings – but they can’t restate a cash dividend.

Plus, dividend growth companies tend to offer lower beta, or volatility relative to the market itself.

Finally, as Jeremy Siegel has documented in Stocks for the Long Run, over an investor’s lifetime, reinvesting dividends can account for over half of an investor’s total returns.

With the growing likelihood of a terrifying bull market in stocks kicking off, investors can get a relative safe-haven with dividend-paying stocks.

The Income Effect
No, We Can’t Time A Crisis

September 10, 2025 • Addison Wiggin

the BLS claims the healthcare and social assistance sector added +58,000 jobs per month over the past three months.

Meanwhile, ADP shows the same sector losing an average of -33,300 jobs per month. That’s a 91,300 job gap — after years when the two data services have tracked closely.

Worse, the Labor Department just revised down -911,000 jobs from the past 12 months — the largest revision in U.S. history, bigger even than 2009.

Private hiring was overstated by -880,000 jobs.

Trade, transport, leisure, hospitality — all quietly cut back. Excluding healthcare, the U.S. economy has actually lost 142,200 jobs over the past four months.

The revisions are so large they now rival the global financial crisis.

If June’s downward revision of -27,000 is counted, that’s -285,000 over two months, the worst outside of 2020.

No, We Can’t Time A Crisis