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Beneath the Surface

A Tidal Wave of Debt

Loading ...Bill Bonner

November 13, 2024 • 3 minute, 43 second read


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A Tidal Wave of Debt

Bill Bonner, writing today from Baltimore, Maryland

When Mr. Trump spoke of a Golden Age in his victory speech, we immediately thought of the Golden Age of Greece… when Pericles delivered his famous funeral oration. Athens was at war, and many people thought they should give it up, sue for peace… and get back to work. Not Pericles. He saw an opportunity to Make Athens Great Again.

Pericles was a ‘war hawk’… and no slouch as an orator. The Athenians rallied around him, put on their panoplies — sword and shield — and the war cries resounded through the city as the menfolk, young and old, marched out to combat.

Uh oh… the result was a crushing defeat in which the Athenian empire was destroyed, the city itself conquered, occupied by foreign troops… and its population sold into slavery.

Not a good example for the uplifting spirit we’re looking for today…

So, we turn back to Donald J. Trump.

And one of our Dearest Readers writes:

Yes, there’s an entire mountain range of debt, but what if Trump’s policies actually do make things better? What if manufacturing does return to the US in a huge way? (Does America have any choice other than to incentivize it?) What if energy prices do drop 30-50%? What if regulations and federal government employment are meaningfully cut? What if the economy does start growing at 4-6%?

Scott Bessent, BSD on Wall Street, and mentioned as a possibility for Trump’s Secretary of the Treasury, had this to add. In the Wall Street Journal:

The failure of Bidenomics is clear. But Mr. Trump has turned around the economy before, and he is ready to do so again. [Nobel winning economists] may not understand this, but the financial markets have clearly spoken.

And not since Herbert Hoover’s election in 1929 have they shouted out so loudly. Bitcoin traded over $89,000 this morning. The Dow was falling, but still near a record high.

Mr. Bessent at least nods in the direction of the tidal wave of debt soon to wash over the new administration. “Mr. Trump must also address government borrowing,” he says. But he thinks the problem is that it is ‘expensive shorter-term debt’ that must be ‘deftly handled.’

Well… good luck with that! The problem is not the term, but the amount. Mr. Bessent needs to listen to the market more carefully. It’s saying that interest rates will have to go higher to cover it. MarketWatch:

10-year Treasury yield breaks through key resistance levels on way to 5%

Since mid-September, the widely followed yield has risen past one resistance level after another, starting with 4.21% and 4.3%, the latter of which is described as a proverbial line in the sand that has begun to cause problems for the stock market over the past year… The rate has jumped about 80 basis points from its 52-week low of 3.62% reached on Sept. 16.

Already, the feds paid $1.13 trillion in interest on the US debt over the last twelve months. It’s unlikely that that amount will go down — not with rates rising and debt increasing by $3 billion per day.

And now that the markets have got a good look at the approaching tsunami, they may figure that it’s time to head to higher ground. As reported in this space, the feds need to refinance $16 trillion in the next four years. Add to that amount deficits that are expected to come in at $2 trillion per year.

Investors might also recall that The Donald added $8 trillion to US debt during his first term. So, it wouldn’t be hard to imagine a total of nearly $44 trillion by the end of this term, with much of it sporting a 5% yield. That would mean interest payments of over $2 trillion per year. How are the feds going to handle that, investors will want to know? With more printing press money?

To make matters worse, only days after the election, Trump is already bringing in his hawks — war hawks, trade hawks, China hawks. Notably absent, so far, are the budget hawks — people who want to reduce federal deficits by cutting spending or raising taxes.

They are probably absent because they don’t exist. Members of Congress, political hacks, lobbyists and ‘influencers’ of all types earn their money and power by spending the public’s money, not by saving it. And like a Freudian nightmare, in the absence of serious budget cutting, the ‘Golden Age’…turns into the something much less appealing.

More to come…


A Masterclass In Absurdity

November 6, 2025 • Lau Vegys

If you’re from New York—or know anyone there—you’ll probably agree: most New Yorkers are fed up with crime, the outrageous cost of living, government incompetence and corruption—and, yes, the rats.

But the fact that a hard-core socialist like Mamdani is their favorite pick to solve those problems tells you that most voters have no idea why any of it is happening.

Their hatred of Donald Trump—and a steady diet of MSNBC—has made them blind to the obvious: it’s the Left’s policies creating these problems. You have rent control shrinking supply by forcing landlords to pull units from the market, union giveaways jacking up the cost of transportation, zero-bail laws putting criminals back on the streets, and so on and so forth.

A Masterclass In Absurdity
The Price of Everything, the Value of Nothing

November 6, 2025 • Addison Wiggin

Markets are having themselves a moody little week.

The Dow’s off 1%, the S&P 500’s down 2%, and the Nasdaq — where the AI darlings dance — has stumbled nearly 4%.

Even the refuge assets are catching cold: gold glitters less, and bitcoin, ever the high-strung teenager of finance, is down nearly 8%.

At the moment, traders aren’t sure what to make of it all.

Trump’s tariffs are under review at the Supreme Court, Zohran Mamdani’s socialist experiment is about to begin in New York City, and the AI trade — Wall Street’s favorite bedtime story — is between plot twists.

The Price of Everything, the Value of Nothing
Socialism Seems Cool, Let’s Try It

November 6, 2025 • Addison Wiggin

It isn’t hard to see why young people are looking for an alternative.

This cohort came of age through financial crises, inflation, a pandemic, trillion-dollar federal debts, chronic political deceit, a rough job market, predatory credit, expensive degrees with dubious ROI, and rents that make homeownership a punchline.

The status quo clearly isn’t working for the young. In that vacuum, socialism seems “cool,” so why not try it?

Socialism Seems Cool, Let’s Try It
Harry Dent: America’s Demographic Time Bomb

November 5, 2025 • Andrew Packer

Decline will be felt by the economy on a lag and could be what ends up torpedoing his second term, along with his tariffs and the greatest bubble in history way overdue to burst in the next few years.

I objectively expect the music to stop while Trump is still in office, and no president gets re-elected in a bad economy (or his VP Vance), and this should be the worst since 1930-33.

If this decline had occurred right after he entered office, he wouldn’t have been blamed for it, or not as much. But after a full year+ and his tariffs appearing as a trigger, he will very much end up being blamed.

Harry Dent: America’s Demographic Time Bomb